Seeing the flaws of others by Swami Ramsukhdasji

Discussion in 'Hindu Saints' started by Amit, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. Amit

    Amit New Member

    People say - "We chant Lord's name, yet we do not find peace". So remember two things -

    One is that you keep chanting name steadfastly. Those who have become sadhus, they must especially remember this that food, clothing, shelter etc will be available on its own, they must remain quiet and chant Lord's name every moment, and call out to God in loneliness - "Oh Lord! I should not forget you". Even while chanting names, keep repeating this from time to time - "Oh Lord! I shouldn't forget you".

    This is a good idea for everyone to remain quiet. Lot of time gets wasted in useless talking.Nothing is as important as time, and lost time does not come back again, its going every second.And while chanting name, remember God. You may chant any name - Ram, Krishna, Vishnu, Hari, Vasudev etc, and keep calling out to HIM.

    Just have one demand - "Oh Lord! I must not forget you". Do it day and night. Don't meet people much. Quietly do satsang, take up the good lessons, and leave quietly. Try to be alone. Who knows when this life will end, so remember God each moment, that way, you won't be worried about death. It won't matter whenever you die, you won't be worried about death. You will benefit if you die while chanting HIS name.

    Whatever time has already passed, that has already been lost. Now whatever time is left, don't let it go waste, remember God each moment, and chant HIS name.

    Second thing is -You take up one vow, and this itself will be a huge service to all the three worlds. Just like on the day of fasting, you do not eat, similarly you take up this vow that "I will speak only truth, I will not speak lies" and same way, "I will never consider anyone as bad in my mind, everyone is God's form". Everything - good/bad, stationary/moving, everything is God's form, Vasudev Sarvam - this is the principle.

    If you consider someone as bad, then will that thought be related to God? If someone does wrong, he is bad, but if you see him as a bad person, then is this right? Is this too not wrong?Is considering a wrong-doer as bad a lesser wrong?Its a huge flaw. Even if someone is doing an extremely cruel thing, you should think - "God is there, God is doing Kaliyug leela".

    Has God given you permission to consider others bad? Is that your responsibility? You do not have the right or duty to consider others bad.

    Also, by listening, speaking, or considering the flaws of others, that flaw will come in you too.Just like by thinking about God, the relation with God is strengthened, similarly by thinking about other's flaws, won't your relation with those flaws get strengthened?If you consider anyone as flawed, then you will develop a relation with that flaw.

    It might not appear to you today, but that flaw will show up in you from time-to-time because you have formed a relationship with it. This will be a huge loss. Never consider others as bad, and completely remove the feeling of doing wrong to others.

    "उमा संत कै इहइ बड़ाई, मंद करत जो करइ भलाई" (maanas, sunderkand)

    ie: Lord Shiva says in Ramcharitmanas: "Uma! This alone is the glory of saints that they do good to even those who do bad to them".

    Do good to even those who wrong you. Don't let the thought come to your mind that he should face bad results. If you will think about flaws, then not only will your antah-karan develop those flaws, but the time that should have been utilized in God-remembrance shall also get wasted in thinking about flaws. What a huge loss!

    "डरते रहो ये ज़िन्दगी बेकार न हो जाए, सपने में भी किसी जीव का अपकार न हो जाये"

    ie: always remain afraid that this life doesn't go wasted, and even in dreams any Jeeva is not harmed due to me.
    Further,the person whom you consider bad, by your thus thinking, the flaw gets even more strengthened in him. If you think about the flaws of someone, then those flaws will get attached to him too, he will be harmed, then why establish a flaw? If possible, establish goodness by thinking - "He is a good man, how did this wrong happen through him?"

    From within he is a fragment of God - "ममैवांशो जीवलोके" (Gita). The truth is that he is a fragment of God since eternity, and the flaw is just a visitor, then how did the person become bad?

    Also, will the wrong-doer do wrong to everyone?
    Will he do wrong at all times?
    Will he always remain flawed, will he never improve?

    There is always purity at the root, at the roots no one is flawed.All are fragments of God. The flaws have only been made by us, goodness will come on its own when the flaw is given up.

    People think that one will become a good man after he does a good deed, but this is a wrong concept. One can do a good deed only AFTER being good himself. If you do not consider anyone as bad, then you are a good man.

    Purity (flawlessness) is naturally there, flaws have been made by us. This has been my experience. Purity is naturally present at the root. God is already attained to all naturally, right now and from the very nature God is already attained to all.

    “Samo'ham sarva-bhuteshu na me dveshyo'sti na priyah"(Gita 9/29)

    ie “I am equally present in all beings, there is none hateful or dear to me”.

    "सब मम प्रिय सब मम उपजाए" (maanas, uttarkand)

    ie: "All are dear to me, all have been created by me."
  2. Amit

    Amit New Member

    All are verily the fragments of God himself, they are “a-mal” (flawless). Flaws are not at all there in the root, and flaws cannot stay constantly forever, not even for a single day.

    Say if you decide – I will speak only truth from now onwards– then you can do so for your entire lifetime, but say you decide one day that from today I will speak only lies, and nothing else, you CAN NOT do it. Then if someone will ask you “are you hungry”, and if you are, you will have to say No, and if you not hungry, you will have to say Yes. For thirst, if someone asks “are you thirsty, will you drink water?” and if you are thirsty you will have to say No, but if you are not you will have to say Yes. It is impossible to speak 'only lies' even for a day.

    Say you even decide that it doesn't matter even if I have to die, I will speak only lies. Then won't your vow to lie become a truth?

    Truth cannot be stopped from showing up, because it is in the root, while lie is not there in the root, then how will it stay? If you fulfill your vow to lie, then doesn't that vow become a truth?If you renounce truth, then also truth will stay, and if you speak truth, then also truth will stay. You cannot get rid of truth, no one can, it is a “CONSTANT” tattva (substance), you cannot separate yourself from it.

    Goodness is there ON ITS OWN in all, and evils have been made.

    If a thief steals, he first becomes a thief then he steals, but you say that he becomes a thief only after he has stolen. When Raavan went to steal Sita ji, then first he became a thief, and then he abducted her. He went to Maarich, and when Maarich said it is wrong, Raavan warned him. So first the evil came, then the task was performed, isn't it? To do any wrong deed, one needs to become a bad person, then the wrong is done. The evil is not constant within the wrong-doer, when evil comes, then the wrong is done. But goodness is there naturally.

    When a person becomes bad and does a wrong deed, does he do his own harm or does he do his own good? He harms himself, right? So a person who is harming himself on his own, should you feel sorry for him or should you consider him bad?

    "गच्छतः स्खलनं क्वापि भवत्येव प्रमादतः ।
    हसन्ति दुर्जनास्तत्र समादधति पण्डिताः ॥"

    ( चलते हुए प्रमादवश कोई भी फिसल सकता है । उस स्थिति में दुर्जन
    हंसते हैं और पण्डित समाधान करते हैं )

    ie: “While walking, anyone can slip and fall by mistake. In such a situation, the bad people laugh and the intelligent ones help.”

    Does a person fall intentionally? When a mistake is done, the person who makes the mistake becomes anxious. Can he be peaceful? No. You make a mistake, your peace will surely go, you can not remain peaceful upon doing something wrong. So that person is already suffering due to his mistake, and on top of that you throw stones at him, is this right???

    A mistake happened, fine. You should tell him – See, don't repeat this mistake again.

    Further, if he firmly resolves that next time I will not repeat this mistake, then that is the best atonement for his mistake. Doing good deeds, giving charity, singing Lord's glories, repenting etc are also atonements, but this is a better atonement than the rest. This is the real atonement. If he firmly resolves, his wrong deed will be wiped off, it will get destroyed. So give him this solace that do not repeat such a mistake, then the mistake will be removed. Instead if you keep saying – He is bad, he is bad, he is bad, then he will feel guilty and then the flaw shall not leave him. You should console him saying - “Don't worry, it happens sometimes.”

    There is saying – 'All are naked within their clothes'. Another saying is – 'All cities are established amidst forests' – is this true or false? Are the large mega cities established in villages? Is there any doubt? Same way, you yourself think that have you and I never made a mistake? If we never made a mistake then this birth is a result of what? This birth that we have got due to fruits of our actions, did we get this without any mistake? Can anyone say that he has not made any mistake? Leave aside previous births, can anyone even say that in this birth he has not made any mistakes? Even when saints and great souls, tattvagyas, liberated souls are asked that have you made a mistake in life, then they too have made mistakes. No one can say he hasn't made any mistake.

    Valmiki ji has said that I am the 8th pashu, and from the time of my birth I have not made any mistake, I have never erred. But when did he say this? When it was concerning Sita ji, then he said “I know everything, I have never made any mistakes, Sita is flawless in every way. I have never spoken any lies in my life, I speak only truth, and I know it that she is flawless.” He said this only for Sita ji, else such people do not say such things about themselves. Very few such people can be found.

    If you see characters of incarnations, then you cannot find a character like Ramji, its such a flawless character. But even to him Bali said in Valmiki Ramayan – “If the occasion demands, what justification will you give for hiding and killing me? What use will I be to you, even my flesh or bones cannot be used? This act does not befit you. What will you say, do you have an answer?” Ramji does not have an answer to this. It is Lord's compassion for his devotees that for the sake of devotee, he takes the blame upon himself and makes his devotee flawless. This is God's nature. But a wrong is a wrong. Who can say that his life is flawless? So how can you say that other person has flaws? You cannot say.

    Jesus was going somewhere when his people said about a woman - “this woman is very bad, she is characterless, she is evil.” So Jesus said - “Is it? Ok then, let us all throw stones at her if she is so bad. But only he should throw stones who himself does not have any flaw in him. If a flawed person throws a stone, he will die, so be careful, don't throw any stone at her if you have ever done a wrong.” Could anyone dare to throw a stone?

    So what right do you have to consider others flawed? Has anyone appointed you an inspector? Everyone has the right to do good, everyone has the right to consider others good. No one has been given the right by God to speak wrong, to think wrong, to do wrong, to consider others wrong, or to listen to wrongs of others. If there were such a right, then it would not have been a flaw at all, because we would have only been following an instruction of God, how would it become a flaw. But it is a flaw, that means God has not given us this right.

    So follow these two things – chanting name of God and Not considering anyone as bad, then see whether you mind gets purified or not. Don't consider anyone as bad.

    Renunciation of flaws is not a small thing, its a huge vow, its a rule to be followed – I will not desire wrong of others, I will not consider others bad, I will not do wrong to others, and I will not hear or speak wrong of others.
    Remember these 5 vows, and you will be completely purified.
  3. Amit

    Amit New Member

    In our minds we think that we do not do wrong to others. I have even met many such gentlemen who say “why should I do bhajans? Bhajans are required for those who do wrong, we don't do anything wrong, then what need to we have for bhajans? Sinners should chant names, we dont do sins.” They do not even know what sins are.

    When Hindu Muslim riots occur, if Hindus die you feel sad, and if Muslims die you feel happy. Is this goodness? Is it not a flaw, a partiality, is it not desiring bad for others? When bad things happen to someone, if you feel happy, then is there not evil in you?

    Once satsang was going on in Gorakhpur, and sethji was also present there. There the news came that Mohommad Ali Jinnah has expired, so few people became happy. Sethji said – “Listen!Never ever feel happy upon anyone's death, be it the greatest of sinners, be it anyone, because death is not liked by anyone. So being happy upon someone's death is a sin, you are being a cause of his death, you are becoming a sinner and a contributor to his death by being happy. There are three types of 'hinsa' (violence) – 'Krit', 'Karya', and 'Anumodit' (ie: doing violence oneself, or causing violence, or supporting violence). So by being happy upon death, you are becoming a party to his death by supporting his death. By thinking “good that he died” you become a party to it.”

    One pandit was sitting there, he said – “When the demons used to die, the demi-gods used to blow trumpets and shower flowers from the heavens”. Then sethji replied - “They were demi-gods, not Mahatmas (great souls). Give example of some saint or great-soul.” The pandit became quiet.

    “Uma sant kai ihai badaai, mand karat jo karai bhalaai” (maanas, sunderkand).

    Ie: “Uma! This is the glory of saints, that they do good even to those who do wrong to them”.

    If someone makes a mistake, console him, and teach him - "do not repeat it next time, if you repeat it, it will harm you a lot". Explain to him, console him such that he does not repeat it. Give him a hug and tell him – "brother, this deed does not befit you, do not repeat it". Take away his anxiety, and explain him in such a way that he does not repeat it ever.Even if you scold him, or command him, or console him, you inner feeling should only be pure that the other person becomes flawless, he doesn't remain flawed anymore. Have this feeling. Don't have the feeling that he becomes flawed, don't establish a flaw in him.

    A mistake can happen, let it be, it happens. For this don't consider him bad, don't think of his wrong, don't do wrong. Don't let the feeling arise that He is bad. Think that he is verily a form of God. All are God. God always works according to the form he takes up. When he became a lion (Narsingha Lord) he did things like a lion. He killed a man and took out his intestines and put them around his neck. One should take a bath if he touches a corpse, but Lord took out the intestines of the corpse and put it around his neck. Is this a great deed? But he did according to his incarnation.

    If it is a human, explain to him. Make him conscious, save him from wrongs, and save yourself too. And if someone criticizes you that you have done a wrong thing, then say with equanimity - "Brother, it happened, I made a mistake, I won't repeat it next time".

    No one is as kind as mother. When the son starts to get spoilt, the mother beats him and he cries saying – Mother! I won't repeat it again, I won't do it again”. The stick falls from her hands. Yashoda maa could not rule over Krishna in any way. When she was about to beat Krishna for eating dirt, he started crying saying “i wont do I again”. Can a mother beat any further?

    When someone makes a mistake, teach him not to repeat it. If he becomes conscious and resolves that now this flaw shall not come in me in this lifetime, then the mistake shall be atoned and will not be repeated again. The secret of doing good deeds is to resolve that I will never repeat this mistake again.

    We studied in school – one must not repeat his mistakes. This will be a good deed itself, it will be a huge atonement.

    Once Sethji Shri Jayadayalji had visited a satsang in Assam. There two brother had a fight. There sethji said– One must not have enmity, it causes harm. “निर्वैरा सर्वभूतेषु" - One must not have even the slightest of enmity with any being. If you will have enmity then you will not benefit. It will be an obstacle in your liberation. One of Sethji's little finger was slightly crooked. Sethji said – “Say someone worships me, offers me good food, flowers, garlands, puts sandalwood paste on me etc, but says – this one finger is slightly crooked, so let me cut it slightly, I will do all other forms of service, I will respect you in all ways, but this finger is crooked so I will just cut it - then will I be pleased with him? I will say – “let your worship be, don't cut my finger, of what use will your worship be?” Same way, this entire world is a form of God, and you have enmity with one fragment of it, then is that not a finger of God? Is it not a part of God? When whole world is a form of God, then even the most evil thing is a form of God. This you have to accept. You cannot say that all is God except him. So if you become his enemy, you won't be liberated, that is enmity with God himself.

    Those two brothers had a fight. So hearing sethji's words, of them said - “I am leaving my enmity right away, I wont have enmity from now onwards”. But the other one said - “Now he has come on the right track”. This second one criticized the first brother a lot saying that he caused him a lot of loss and said “now he has been straightened”.

    Sethji said - “You also leave your enmity”. He replied - “my enmity will not go, it will only go with me (ie upon my death) in the end.” Sethji said - “If you want to take something with you, take goodness, why take a bad thing?”

    The first brother now started crying saying - “I don't want to keep enmity, but he says it will go only with him, then the enmity remains on me, it will not go, now what do I do?” Sethji said that although it was not his nature, yet he patted the first brother's back saying - “Your enmity has gone, now let it go with him, your enmity has gone, now he too should leave it”.

    Now the second one thought that the first one has been freed, now what if some trouble comes upon me alone, so he asked- “should I too quit enmity?” So sethji said - “why would you keep enmity?” Both of them became mutual friends again and gave up enmity.

    Just by using this story at 2-3 different places, I tried to remove the enmity amongst people, and it was gone. Just by this story alone!
  4. Amit

    Amit New Member

    Two gold-smiths had mutual enmity, they wanted to ruin each-other. When I narrated this story to them, they developed mutual friendship.

    Two maheshwaris has mutual enmity, it was continuing since 14 years. There I was saying to behave with mutual love with each other. For this, I said the following things to explain – "Those of you who are wealthier than others of your society, such wealthy sisters should go to the house of those poorer sisters, and lets say you have your child with you, and the poorer woman's child is eating some simple food, grains etc, then you should ask that child to share some food with your own child saying - “he too is your brother, give him some too.” Make them share food in this way and behave with love. Then when she comes to your house, you should serve her sweets and clothes. If she says “no, no, how can I take!” then say - “why do you say no? When I come to your house I ask on my own, I am giving without your asking”. The only difference is one has money one does not have. So give her."

    I was saying this, when one of those brothers stood up and said - “You are saying this, but we Maheshwari brothers have such enmity that one says - “I will not eat at your house”. It creates so much trouble on occassions like marriage and festivals, because relatives belong to both sides, now what to do?” So I said “remove you enmity” and narrated the Assam incident. It affected them and they decided to give up enmity, one did namaskar and the other got pleased, and 14 year old enmity, which would not go even after panchayat advices got removed due to satsang. It was fate, not that someone can claim “I removed their enmity”. They celebrated that day, decorated Lakshmi-Narayan Temple with lamps at night, and distributed Lord's Prasaad in the whole village the next day.

    Just imagine how much peace it will give. Merely by listening to such stories of removal of enmity we get peace, then how much peace you will get by removing all your enmities. Take a vow within - “I will not keep enmity against anyone from today, I will not consider anyone as bad”. It will be a huge benefit, your flaw will go, and the one who did the wrong, even his flaw will go, and if he too resolves that I will not do wrong from today, then it will be the best atonement.

    Say your brother catches plague, then try to avoid catching the disease yourself, but should you start disliking your brother for having plague? Its only a temporary disease, did your brotherhood end due to plague? Just try to avoid the disease, but does that mean you should not take care of him? Same way if someone does a wrong thing, its just a flaw coming into him, so should you criticize him or insult him? Instead make him resolve not to repeat the wrong again.

    Make a firm resolve that I will never ever repeat this mistake, I am making the resolve, but Lord shall make me fulfill my resolve, I am dependent upon Lord for this. “Lord! I don't want to do this again, now you give me the strength”. This way ask God for strength and never do the wrong again, then the already done wrong shall get destroyed. Else how else will you get liberated? How will actions done over endless lifetimes get exhausted (destroyed) in any single lifetime? It is impossible. Just for exhausting the actions of one lifetime (human birth) one needs to suffer through 84 lakhs of species. You have got human life, that does not mean that your previous sins have not yet been completely exhausted, it is God's grace that he postpones further sins and gives us an intermediate human life, a chance for our welfare. Its not that your sins are over, God has given you a second chance.

    When even God gives second chance, why can't you? Why should you consider someone as flawed due to his wrongs? Even you should give another chance.

    We think that after exhausting all our bad-karmas we have obtained the human birth, but the bad-karmas have not yet exhausted, God gives us a chance in between. You have attained this human-birth by God's grace, so you cannot say that you did not have any more bad-Karmas.

    (1)Don't consider anyone as bad, (2)don't do bad to anyone, (3)don't desire bad for anyone, (4)don't hear the wrongs of anyone, (5)don't speak the wrongs of anyone. If you take up these 5 resolves, a huge service shall be done by you to the entire world.You may think - Just by not seeing others' flaws there will be service to the world? But think - Is it a small thing to not see others' flaws? Its a huge thing. And as long as you consider others bad, you cannot serve the world.

    In Jainism, when someone takes up the vow not to eat any plants, then all the plants, trees, herbs become happy. They won't be scared of him. They are scared if he does not take the vow because then he might eat them up. Man is fearless of him who does not hurt him.

    We do not remember what wrongs we have done in previous lives, we don't even remember all the wrongs done in this life. So if a wrong happens, don't be afraid, but resolve firmly that I will not repeat it, and pray to God for giving you strength to fulfill that vow. That wrong will be eliminated.

    I have heard a story - A gentleman went to see Lord Bankebihari. In the temple he said "I cannot see Bihariji". People said - "what are you saying? Bihariji is right infront of you". He said "I know, I trust you, but I cannot see him". People found it very strange that God is standing right in front of him and yet he cannot see. He went to the temple second day, third day, but yet he could not see Bihari ji. So he felt very depressed that God is not giving me his vision, I came to Vrindavan only for his vision. At night he decided "I should go and drown in Yamunaji.

    When God does not want me to have his vision, whats the use of staying alive. He gives his vision to the entire world, but not to me, so I will go and die." So at night he started walking towards the river Yamuna. On the way, a leper begger sat on the road-side. He used to beg people for money. The begger was sleeping at the time this man was passing by him. The moment this man reached near the begger, the begger woke up and clutched this man's legs tightly saying - "cure my leprosy". This man said - "Brother! don't hold me, I am a big sinner, even Lord does not give me his vision, I cannot cure you". But the begger insisted. The man tried to explain a lot, but the begger did not listen. The man asked - "what is it? Why are you holding me?" The begger replied - "Thakurji came in my dream and said that when someone passes by you towards Yamunaji, hold his legs, your leprosy will be cured. If he just says, your leprosy will be cured, this is Thakurji's order, I will not leave your legs, I will not let you go". The man tried to explain that it was just a delusion, but the begger insisted and said - "you just say it that I will be cured, it will not cost you anything, just say it". The man did so, and the begger really got cured, and the man got very surprised at this strange incident. He then decided that I should not go to die today when Lord himself has stopped me. Next day when he went to the temple, he could see God. He was highly surprised that Lord! I came to see you 3 times, but you did not give your vision, but today I can see, what is this? So Lord's reply was - "You worship me, but you never desired anything from me, then how could I show my face to you? I became indebted to you, and how does an indebted person show his face? But now that I have done one of your tasks and freed the begger from his disease, now I have become capable of confronting you". What a wonderful story this is! Lord does not show his face because the devotee only served him and never desired anything in return.
  5. Amit

    Amit New Member

    So just follow the 5 vows, your flaws will be removed, and your goodness will naturally develop.

    Goodness is self-evident in all. Its a wrong assumption that goodness comes only upon doing good things. Goodness always exists in all, flaws come and go. No one can remain bad at all times, for all beings, whereas he can be good throughout his life.

    How good that man became that God himself felt shy in showing face to him! There is possibility of being good and getting liberated for each one of us. It is not possible that everyone only keeps suffering all the time. No pain can survive without pleasure. Even those who are suffering in the hells, when they are taken out of the boiling oil, they feel happy. Pleasure is attained even in Hells. Good-deeds can not get completely destroyed, bad-deeds can get completely destroyed. Bondage can be broken forever, but it is not a law that bondage will stay forever. Goodness is independent, Sat (real) is independent, Asat (unreal) (flaws) is dependent, its a law.

    That is why don't see the flaws of others. Its only a mistake done by others, its a sin only committed by other, but he is not a sinner forever. No one can remain a sinner forever 'eeshwar ansh jeev avinashi, chetan AMAL sahaj sukhrashi" (maanas). How will he be "amal" (flawless) if he is a sinner? No. Purity is naturally inherent in all. Impurity is coming and going, therefore it gets eliminated. There can be lack of unreal (sat), but there cannot be lacking of the real (Sat). That is why only unreal gets destroyed, Real does not get destroyed. Bondage is unreal, liberation is real, it is available to all naturally.

    This was a lecture delivered by Swami Ramsukhdasji.

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